best martial art or arts for street fighting

[leeb51]

wing chun. it is a complete system that takes a long long time to master, some may never master it, but even with a little knowledge of forward focus and internal power springs you will never be beaten in a street fight. for those who want to reallyy dedicate their lives to a fighting system, its got to be wing chun. theire is no plateau, no maximum level, just a journey that will help you discover unbelievable power.

dont waste your time with martials arts. wing chun.

all the doubters have never taken the time to understand it or felt its power

[Fatman]

Do you eventually learn to make 200-foot leaps, like the guys in Hong Kong martial arts movies?

If they can vouch for that, I'm signing up.

[cathal]

wing chun. it is a complete system that takes a long long time to master, some may never master it, but even with a little knowledge of forward focus and internal power springs you will never be beaten in a street fight. for those who want to reallyy dedicate their lives to a fighting system, its got to be wing chun. theire is no plateau, no maximum level, just a journey that will help you discover unbelievable power.

dont waste your time with martials arts. wing chun.

all the doubters have never taken the time to understand it or felt its power

there are far too many extremist martial artists on this site. dont see whats the big deal to be honest, they wont turn you into a superhuman with an infinite amount of 'power', they're just sports and pastimes really.

[Erik]

they wont turn you into a superhuman with an infinite amount of 'power', they're just sports and pastimes really.

They won't?

But...but...but...

But my sensei said that if I practice my flying dragon stomp kick as hard as I can, I'll not only be able to defeat my opponents by the force of my Ki alone, but that the universe will tremble at my power, I'll get the job I always wanted, retire rich, and girls will finally like me!!!

:):):)

Been doing martial arts for 25 years now, and you are right. They will teach a lot, and help you do things that other people can't, but martial arts are still just a pastime and a sport.

Of course, that board breaking thing is real handy when busting kindling for a fire. ;)

[falldragon]

Kajukenbo would be the best and most adaptable form of street fighting.

[saro]

I would have to go with Muay Thai & BJJ.

[saro]

I would have to go with Muay Thai & BJJ.

[Jeev@n]

Even though my knowlede is fairly limited I will still share my opinion. I know that Tae kwon do, kung fu, karate are all bullshit, and wing chun is good if you get into a fight in a telephone box haha.

My best bets would definately be any style of boxing, muay thai or what ever. 99% of most fights end up on the ground so you might want to do a style focusing of grapling aswell.

The best style for all in one is probaly jujitsu, but then again, you don't really focus on anything.

If I had to choose anything it would definately be boxing, or a military type thing such as krav maga.

i would not share your belief on Tradional Martial Arts as to be bullshit...i've trained in karate most my life and ive fought guys that are tough as hell.

my own personal experience of street fighting tells me that what i have learned through my years practise has now become instinct.Not only has it helped my awareness of situations but its also helped me hurt some one before they hurt me. I guess in the end it comes down to who you are taught by and the way in which your taught. Of course no martial art is prefect but by cross training (i also do judo) you will be far more comftable what ever should happen in an encounter.

[EvilOne]

Good job, I thought this was on the way to the morgue:roll:

[rawmark]

I personally train in Krav Maga. Why? Well, because the creator of KM, Imi Lichtenstein saw the strengths and weaknesses of many of the different styles he had studied and incorporated many of the different techniques into KM. KM = real world fighting. Ultimately, like Jeet Kune Do, there are no rules. Muay Thai is great for the ring but not as effective on the street. However, a good knowledge of any martial arts will allow you to defend yourself and get away in a confrontation. Ideally, you want to get out of a bad situation. KM teaches you how to defend yourself against a gun or knife attack because KM was developed for men in combat.

[Jay Cooper]

"Streetfighting" - whatever that actually means - is more to do with mindset than physicality.

Anyone who categorically states that "This style is the best for streetfighting" is wrong. No ifs or buts, they are wrong. Unless their training is geared towards the physical realities of combat

This is not necesarily preparing for 10 opponents, syringes, broken glass, lava and a samurai sword wielding crackhead; it is ensuring that your body and mind are accustomned to the stresses and reactions that a combative state will inflict upon it. This includes adrenaline and adrenal dump, tunnel vision, body freeze, time displacement etc.

Potentially any system of combat can be converted into "street applicable" by training under realistic conditions (sparring at various levels of contact, non-compliant partner drills, "exhaustion" drilling and stress drills), but there are some that are more immediately adaptable than others.

Any "fine motor skills" are usually not worth it as they are the first skill to go when pressured. Good solid "meat and potatoes" striking (boxing/thai boxing) are good to learn because they are drilled under pressure and will emerge under pressure.

Groundwork is a MUST. You do not need to be a groundfighter with 1000's of sunmissions, but you need to know enough to enable you to get to your feet should the worst happen. Anyone who dismisses grappling as being "unrealistic" is a fool. It is not the best place to take a fight, but there is a high percentage chance that in a fight you will end up down there. If all you can do is scream "MIND THE LAVA" then you are sunk.

Grappling. like boxing, is drilled "under pressure" too.

I personally recommend practicing with a weapon - I prefer Kali - as this gives you another aspect to your mindset. If you train with a weapon, you will find it easier to defend against it simply because you are used to facing it in practice. I always carry at least one blade when not at work, and I have 11 on my person when at work (along with lots of other tools of control and defense). Will I ever use it? I hope not...but it is there should I really need it.

This sounds like a lot to cram into a program...and to be honest it is. You may find that you have to attend a regular class and then tailor what you learn to whatever application you desire the most (sport, art, fitness or combat system)

[demarcoa]

Enough already with this thread

[Fatman]

This is not necesarily preparing for 10 opponents, syringes, broken glass, lava and a samurai sword wielding crackhead;

Shit... I better send back the samurai sword I ordered for my dojo (The One True Way of Dragon martial arts school). Do you think I can get a refund?

[Jay Cooper]

Shit... I better send back the samurai sword I ordered for my dojo (The One True Way of Dragon martial arts school). Do you think I can get a refund?

Only if it is still in the original wrapper!:D

[Fatman]

Thanks! If it works, we'll send you a honorary black belt, absolutely free.

OTWoD

[Bruce Lee]

Interesting thoughts I must say..geez...where do I begin lol.

[Dave.cyco]

Good job, I thought this was on the way to the morgue:roll:

Well, you know, even though a zombie may appear dead, all it needs is a whiff of fresh meat to start moaning and faliling about once again.:lol:

[demarcoa]

Well, you know, even though a zombie may appear dead, all it needs is a whiff of fresh meat to start moaning and faliling about once again.:lol:

So don't feed it!

[RM1]

Has anyone checked out nononsenseselfdefense.com? It's a site about how to avoid violence, and if that fails how to use it for damage control. I find the articles posted there very interesting, and there are tons of them. The articles are great for someone like me, who grew up in a very safe neighborhood where violent crime was nonexistent and who had never even witnessed a fight, much less been in one. It gave me a new perspective on violent crime and how useful my (limited) tkd skills are for streetfighting/self defense. If you've lived a sheltered life like me, I highly recommend it.

[Bruce Lee]

I teach Jeet Kune Do concepts...and if you are truly interested in the the street fighting aspect with (with no rules), I would gear you towards one of my several instructors named Paul Vunak. Go to youtube.com and watch his videos..they are battle tested as I've seen him do it..yes, the guy is off his rocker..but he speaks the truth in regards to the anatomy of street fights. Thus, why the Navy Seals and several Law enforcements knock on his door to have him train their elite forces :)

Enjoy and blessings to you,

Pt-

Btw... here are my other instructors you should watch on youtube:

Dan Inosanto, Jerry Poteet, Master Chai Sirisute (Muay Thai), Eryk Paulson :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1glZtZejs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGSGGFzg4pI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Mso_R_XlM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioIVSP8boT0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c9t-2VE3ZY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JbQwbZDeb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg2oeP3-yKk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GDWkVRK8kQ

[cheesedog]

So don't feed it!

Trouble with that is those damn zombies go out and hunt down their food, moaning and flailing all the while.

[observe783]

Any knowledge of self defense is better than none. Although there are some that are specifically designed for the street and reality bases scenarios. I've been doing martial arts since I was 8 years old. Mostly tae kwon do from when I was younger and then along time with Filipino martial arts and MMA. None of it worked for me so I switched systems to Krav Maga (it is a fighting/self defense system, not a martial art). It's the only one that I find really effective for the street and self defense. The most important thing isn't the style, it's the training methods. You can train for years and years in the dojo but with out adrenal stress training and reallity based scenarios none of it will work. And the ones who agree with me are the ones who have had real life experience with street attacks. When your adrenalin is pumping and your heart rate is up you lose use of fine motor skills and all that fancy shit goes out the window. Gross motor skill training is the only way to go. If you wanna read up on this stuff for fact checking here are some good systems/names to look up: Darrin Levine/Krav Maga, Tony Blauer/SPEAR, Kelly (aka Jim) Mccann/Crucible, Jim Wagner/Reality Based, Scotty Reitz/ International Tactical Training.

A boat load of knowledge about what the human body can and can't do under stress and what moves actually work.

PS- Jiu Jitsu = fun but bad for self defense. Ground fighting on the street where the bad guy can potentially have a weapon, or more likely, a friend or friends. Learn it because it's better than nothing on the ground but don't base your survival on it. Stay on your feet, and your first priority when you hit the ground is get back up, not an arm bar.

[EvilOne]

Seriously there must be a subliminal message requirement when you register you are obligated to post in this thread. Zombie's are best defeated with 10 men in a can. AKA OC, AKA MACE, AKA PEPPER SPRAY.

[Erik]

Seriously there must be a subliminal message requirement when you register you are obligated to post in this thread. Zombie's are best defeated with 10 men in a can. AKA OC, AKA MACE, AKA PEPPER SPRAY.

Does Axe body spray work on zombies, too? Because according to the commercials, it attacts girls, so if you can attract the girls and repel zombies simultaneuosly, you got it made!

[Fatman]

I swear, I hate myself for doing this. But whenever I see this thread pop up in the New Posts section I HAVE to look. I know I'm helping feed the zombie, but I can't help it. Weak self-control. I will never be the Ultimate Internet Martial Arts Master.

Sifu Fatman

One True Way of Dragon Dojo

[demarcoa]

Trouble with that is those damn zombies go out and hunt down their food, moaning and flailing all the while.

Perhaps the heroes called moderators can kill it permanently?

[cheesedog]

Perhaps the heroes called moderators can kill it permanently?


Too late, if you kill one zombie two more take their place. :evil:



But seriously, I could kill it, but it's obviously the most popular thread here. I think a few have come to this site just to post a message here and then go away, never to return. So as annoying as this endless, mostly pointless discussion is it would'nt be right to end it.

[JeffMitchell]

..sell it on ebay

[Fatman]

Perhaps the heroes called moderators can kill it permanently?

No! Are you kidding? This is one of my favorite reads.

[demarcoa]

Too late, if you kill one zombie two more take their place. :evil:



But seriously, I could kill it, but it's obviously the most popular thread here. I think a few have come to this site just to post a message here and then go away, never to return. So as annoying as this endless, mostly pointless discussion is it would'nt be right to end it.

Ha! No, I was kidding. Kind of funny though, this thread has the most posts of any, but 90% of it is repeated multiple times in the thread and 95% is useless. And all of us are guilty of keeping this zombie alive. :roll:

[cheesedog]

We COULD make this zombie our pet, to be cared for and pampered, just to see how big it can grow.

[demarcoa]

It can't be better cared for/pampered than it already is. And it's the fastest growing thread onsite.

[Dave.cyco]

Ughhh!! Bwaaainns!!

[Dave.cyco]

It can't be better cared for/pampered than it already is. And it's the fastest growing thread onsite.

Fastest growing recycling plant

[demarcoa]

Fastest growing recycling plant

Wha...????

[cheesedog]

Wha...????

I think Dave means it's just the same crap over and over.

[Patrick1968]

Ughhh!! Bwaaainns!!

Check out a movie called Fido - about domesticated Zombies! (its a comedy). The truth is, you cant be friends with a Zombie - even the nice ones still want to eat you. It's not their fault - it's just nature versus nurture!

[demarcoa]

Ah! I am enlightened by your great knowledge of the intricacies of the English language, Master Shifu (with corny Chinese accent) :)

btw I'm totally entitled to do that, I'm half Chinese myself.
Did I spell 'intricacies' right?

Who cares!