Head pulling down for MT strikes and one arm pullups.

You know how MT fighter keep their opponent controlled by pulling in behind the head. Obviously strong lats, biceps and forearms are responsible for success in this situation.
I know most MT figher do pull ups. I am wondering the following.
If a MT figher can do say 10 one arm pull up and the other one 10 two arm pull up, everything is the same; would the one arm pull up guy be better at controlling his opponnent and why?

I know the obvious answer, but would like to hear why you think so.

"Cause he is stronger" or cause one arm pull up require more strength is a very simple answer. I am looking for something more sofisticated and concrete.

[plancheismine]

probably the one arm pull up guy because he has a lot ( :shock: ) more strength then someone who can do 10 regular pull ups

Well if the two handed guy does more pull ups he would build endurance,
but if he keeps training with one hand than that's strength.
So yes one handed pull up guy would be better off. He may even be able to control his opponent with one hand.

[androushka]

Do you realize how much training goes into being able to do a one-armed pullup? And for how long? I'd say most people couldn't get to the level of doing 10 consecutive no matter how much they trained. That guy would be much better off training muay thai for all that time! I also agree endurance would be more crucial for muay thai, allthough a big reserve of strength is never a bad thing.

[koltz]

well it's not a question you basicly asked if a guy who can do one armed pullups will be better off then the same guy who can do two armed ones , skills thje vast majority here but pulling will be easier for the one arm guy

and really most people can do 10 one armed pullups if they trained for it right

[androushka]

You really think so? I've been training for a OAP like 4-5 days a week for almost a year and I'm no way near getting it :x I´still was at decent level beore I started out.

[jonp382]

What has been your training method? I've been working up to them with side to side pull-ups lately, and yesterday I started doing pull-ups where my arm was in the center of the bar as well as my body, and one assisting arm out to the side of the bar. Once I can do 10 on each side I'll start doing one arm on the bar and then another one holding on to the side bars holding the chinning bar up...I think that once I can do 15 on each side, I'll have a fair bet at doing at least a single OAP. :) I'm still a newbie with pull-ups though, so who knows...I'll probably have to strengthen my insertion points as well.

The admin should make a guide towards the one arm pull-up if it hasn't been done already.

[androushka]

I've been doing a few different things... first of all I hit the weighted pullups hard for a long time... got up to the point where I could do a pullup with somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4 of my bodyweight attatched. I've been practicing top-position lock-offs, various assisted versions and negatives. I'm improving but the road sure was a lot longer than I thought it would be!

[Sh0t]

One thing i do very often is a pullup with commando grip combined with swinging my knees up towards the bar.

Neck wrestling is mostly leverage though, using your bodyweight. Same goes for snap downs. Technique does a lot for you, knowing where on the head to pull for the greatest efficiency.

As long as you are doing your pullups, supine rows, and the like, you won't have much trouble with the strength side of the move.