Is it really possible?

[solidscorpion69]

Ive only seen it in Rumble in the Bronx, but only then have i seen someone do a handstand pushup without the support of a wall. I have been trying to do one for about 3 years on and off and i can only do a small one while not dipping that low and then losing my balance. Is there anyone here who can, tries to, or knows of someone(besides jacky chan) who can do one?

[plancheismine]

are you kidding me? :lol: tons of people can. go to beastskills for the tutorial.

[Fit4Fight]

Yep, Ross Enamait can do them => www.rosstraining.com

[solidscorpion69]

oh man,owned. thanks guys how good are you at them

[Fit4Fight]

Unfortunately can´t do em without support of the wall, yet.

[koltz]

Unless you are training balance or showing off theres no real use for a freestading HSPU

I can get off the wall about half the time when I do them but I can't do it without a wall..

[99benmoore]

Unless you are training balance or showing off theres no real use for a freestading HSPU

I can get off the wall about half the time when I do them but I can't do it without a wall..

I dont know... you would see much greater gains in the stabilising muscles - I can see it engaging all three of the deltoid heads quite activly.... as well as the various core stabilising muscles to a greater extent.

Performing it against a wall will allow you to specificaly isolate the primary movers quite effectivly - eg the medial delts, triceps, traps, etc... but freestanding you will see greater functional gains imo.

Its why (forgive me for the reference :wink: ) dumbells can induce greater strength/hypertrophy then barbells in certain exercises... and why a barbell bench press will produce better gains then a machine chest press....

[koltz]

Unless you are training balance or showing off theres no real use for a freestading HSPU

I can get off the wall about half the time when I do them but I can't do it without a wall..

I dont know... you would see much greater gains in the stabilising muscles - I can see it engaging all three of the deltoid heads quite activly.... as well as the various core stabilising muscles to a greater extent.

Performing it against a wall will allow you to specificaly isolate the primary movers quite effectivly - eg the medial delts, triceps, traps, etc... but freestanding you will see greater functional gains imo.

Its why (forgive me for the reference :wink: ) dumbells can induce greater strength/hypertrophy then barbells in certain exercises... and why a barbell bench press will produce better gains then a machine chest press....
as functional as curling on a bosu ball! lol

this isn't the same or anythign near as dumbell vs barbel , you just fall off before you train anything and break your spine....
If you want to do it , then take more distance away from a wall and try to keep yourself off it this way at least you can finish your set if you fell back

[99benmoore]

Unless you are training balance or showing off theres no real use for a freestading HSPU

I can get off the wall about half the time when I do them but I can't do it without a wall..

I dont know... you would see much greater gains in the stabilising muscles - I can see it engaging all three of the deltoid heads quite activly.... as well as the various core stabilising muscles to a greater extent.

Performing it against a wall will allow you to specificaly isolate the primary movers quite effectivly - eg the medial delts, triceps, traps, etc... but freestanding you will see greater functional gains imo.

Its why (forgive me for the reference :wink: ) dumbells can induce greater strength/hypertrophy then barbells in certain exercises... and why a barbell bench press will produce better gains then a machine chest press....
as functional as curling on a bosu ball! lol

this isn't the same or anythign near as dumbell vs barbel , you just fall off before you train anything and break your spine....
If you want to do it , then take more distance away from a wall and try to keep yourself off it this way at least you can finish your set if you fell back

ahhhh when I said functional... im not part of the whole "functional" movement that seems to be very poopular amoung the newbies these days ^_^

Because these days functional is all about one legged squats, whilst holding 25lb flaming dumbells, standing on a swiss ball, balancing on the tip of the trunk of an elephant that is standing on one leg on the peak of mount everest... whilst wearing a sombrero. :P

Maybe i used it out of context - I actualy meant that when freestanding various stabilising muscles are utilised to a greater extent then if against a wall... without taking away from the load placed upon the primary movers. The greater range of muscles used means that it will carry over to a greater extent to everyday activities and sports, etc.

Hah i guess it depends on your understanding of what a "functional" exercise is :D

[koltz]

Yeah I get you , But I still think to make the most of it as a strength excersise you should have something to help you finish it after your balanche gives up.....

From my expiriance I don't see any difference between semi freestanding and sliding agienst a wall HSPUs... infact if you manage to get some friction in the sliding ones could be harder...

by the way:
http://www.beastskills.com/Freestanding%20HSPU.htm

this site also got many other tuorials worthwhile

[99benmoore]

Yeah I get you , But I still think to make the most of it as a strength excersise you should have something to help you finish it after your balanche gives up.....

From my expiriance I don't see any difference between semi freestanding and sliding agienst a wall HSPUs... infact if you manage to get some friction in the sliding ones could be harder...

by the way:
http://www.beastskills.com/Freestanding%20HSPU.htm

this site also got many other tuorials worthwhile

Beastskills is awesome :D

as for the handstand pushups...

I think both of us are right/wrong... it just depends on the activity the exercise is for... or the test of strength being used to determine what gives the best results for "strength". ie. for a gymnast the freestanding may be more applicable..... or if the test of strength is a barbell shoulder press then your version against the wall will be more suited.

[Celcius]

Let's compremise. =;
You do as many as you can free standing and than finish up using a wall for support.

[sleepingdragonfire]

Unless you are training balance or showing off theres no real use for a freestading HSPU

I can get off the wall about half the time when I do them but I can't do it without a wall..
Read: Because i personally cant do it, it must suck.

[99benmoore]

Unless you are training balance or showing off theres no real use for a freestading HSPU

I can get off the wall about half the time when I do them but I can't do it without a wall..
Read: Because i personally cant do it, it must suck.

lmao :p

no need for that kind of attitude dude - one of the reasons why I post here (this is the ONLY forum i post on) is that the forum community actualy stay on topic and dont bitch or arse around to much.

[koltz]

A few days ago I saw that guy from 3run dunno his name i think chase armitage do handstand pushups the edge of a wall with the height of 3-4 meters and jump down afterwards (landad on his feet)

[99benmoore]

A few days ago I saw that guy from 3run dunno his name i think chase armitage do handstand pushups the edge of a wall with the height of 3-4 meters and jump down afterwards (landad on his feet)

yes you got his name right ^_^

chase is an awesome lad - only met him in person once but hes a decent guy and very talented and strong.

and as for the landing on feet - its suprisingly easy.... just takes a bit of courage when using a height :D

[Mike456]

Ive only seen it in Rumble in the Bronx, but only then have i seen someone do a handstand pushup without the support of a wall. I have been trying to do one for about 3 years on and off and i can only do a small one while not dipping that low and then losing my balance. Is there anyone here who can, tries to, or knows of someone(besides jacky chan) who can do one?
All you need is good balance/stability/core strength and strong push muscles compared to your BW and you will be able to do it