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koltz
Aug 12, 2006, 06:36 PM
Okey , so I had this one in mind , I'm in vacation from school and thre pretty much nothing that uses my time... and I want to get a planche (a straddle planche in a few monthes would be cool ) very soon and my chest is really weak... so it's time to try this:

A small leg routine in my gym nothing special...
2 minute max pushups X 2+
2 minute clap pushups X 2+
2 minute max Pushups with arms near my hips X 2+
20 attempts at tuck planche hold
2 minute one arm pushup max per time X 2+

Hspu on books (3 inch) 10 X 10 (mm might get a few more I once got 23 regular HSPUS before I fell back and I didn't feel anything)

And twice of this High Octane Cardio routine:

1 minute jump rope (By the way I errm "modified" my jump rope to have 7lb dumbell handles I can almost get in a dubble under like that)
20 Pushups
one minute jump rope
20 burpees
one minute jump rope
20 Squat thrusts...
10 secunds rest
max thrusters with the rope handles for 20 secunds.


And Ill try not to do a few pullups in the middle of it all..

oh and another notice , is that regarding the huge volume I know some people would say I'm craz but I'm used to combining gym sessions and doing BW excersises nearly all day with light intensity for a few monthes now and there was a time I'd do workouts 4 hrs long more then 3 times a week...
so Yep tomorrow I'm Going to start building even more volume

Aug 12, 2006, 07:18 PM
Don't doubt this will get you in crazy shape.

P.S. New rank, nice.

koltz
Aug 13, 2006, 03:07 AM
Okey first attempt at pushups for 2 min err... I havent done this stuff for like one year I was gonna quit it all up this morning cause my backs was sore a shit for some reason and I felt pretty exauhsted but heck that's the stuff HFT is all about so ehre ya go:

20 pushups easy,
another 20 easy ,
about 10 and going to rest 5 secs again
another 10 and another 10... by now one minute is over
I'm feeling weak not used to this...
done like a few 5s I can't remember and then 3 and 1...

Around 70 pushups total... pretty lame I can usualy do abt 50 nonstop , Next time I'd do better, I'm gonna go do the Weighted jump rope next because I'm pretty sure I won't handle it at the end of the day , 7lb handles might sound easy when you curl them but keeping medium to fast pace on a jump rope will start burning your upper body in less then 20 rounds....

edit :
@tran , Thanks for congratulating me on this err rank I spam the forum too much =\
and as you can see by my avatar I'm in decent "shape" I am doing this to boost my rate of recovery, so I can get more strength in the long run for stuff like planches , straight arm pulups , crosses etc I'm going to train 4 hours per day like in the old time before I got brainwashed by bodybuilders in my gym (well they are doing what's right for them but It's not what I want as far as my body goes I'm fine at this point)

Aug 13, 2006, 08:57 AM
Koltz,
I am very curious. What were you doing before the bodybuilder's pep-talk?
What are you recovering from? Also straight arm pull ups... You mean dead hangs to front levers?

Aug 13, 2006, 09:33 AM
No Problem man. You got three male organs now. lol

koltz
Aug 13, 2006, 11:05 AM
hehe, Okey I'm gettin into high gear now , Dam I feel too sleepy today I woke up for some reason after 4 hours sleep at best, and later slept 3 more hours in the morning... not good, Also my chest is a bit sore from all the tuck planche holds yesterday , not a big deal.

@superbeast : Well before bodybuilding I'd do swimmign for like one year and a half I was pretty good at it I could alos hit 20 pulups at the time but I was in bad shape very chubby (I'm an endomorph or whatever)
Then after a lil break I got to train in the gym and I just done what worked IE increacing frequency intensity and volume over time instead of just intensity , and eating like shit , I had good results tough , then I geot to belive the BB crap till I was finalyl convinced this stuff is all BS because if it was true Id get better results... Stick to what works and only listen to others to some extent... for example mariusz pudsonawski(hope I spelled it right) traines for shitloads of time too and eats like shit like chocholate pork and protien shakes all day and most bodybuilders envy his physique

Okey another set of pushups , got 71 in two minutes , For some reason they feel harder Iduno I think I fried nerves ro smth.. eevn thoose jump rope handles feel heavier although I still manage with them

from now on I'm gonna write in every cuple of sets if I keep makign long posts per set I'ma spam the hell out of the forums...


edit:
HSPU X 2 X 10 , Was pretty shakey.. went for a 3rd set only managed 1 :\
low grip pushups for 2 min , no fucking Idea how much I got around 50 for sure for some reason they felt more fresh then the regular pushups and I went in much harder inact I hardly got of the ground after it.

Edit 2 : Alternating one arm pushups w/ spread legs , Got about 8-10 of each arm , there hard

koltz
Aug 13, 2006, 12:23 PM
Probably 60-70 Low grip pushups... (like the psuedo-planche pushups but the grips a bit easier)

=\ I have a headace... and shaking arms , Iduno if I am gonna finish it well but I think in any case I've done more work yesterday...

Aug 13, 2006, 03:12 PM
Bro,
don't workout when you have a headache. It's not worth it.
Drink water, massage your head, and relax.

seraphyne1
Aug 13, 2006, 03:57 PM
Drink water

Good tip as a lot of times headaches start because of being dehydrated.

koltz
Aug 13, 2006, 06:33 PM
Yeah I relaxed a bit , I didn't get to do what I wanted I didn't even use the avrage daily volume... ,
but Usualy I'd do nothing on days like theese this would probably help me recover faster in the long run by adding frequency , I also trained more intensively then usual , I done a few HSPUs sets a few sets of near max pushups ( I do about 50 something) I didn't get to do the DB rope cardio because my delts were fryed from the HSPUs...

my chests a little sore now nothing big I feel like I could hit on another set before bed , my delts are dead but not sore at all...

Anyway Ive done all the sets of chest pushups listed and some more...

Ill probably open a new post with daily logs from now on , my new goal is to get a planche this schoolyear... and do a shitload of pushups for a straight hour,

Baofuhaibo
Aug 21, 2006, 12:10 AM
Are you allowing at least a day of rest in between workouts? Why do you need to go to a gym for this? If you did pullups in between your pushup bursts it would relax the opposing muscles, allowing for quicker recovery and better results, and the legs are the largest part of the body and when worked(they can handle a lot more punishment than you think), release more human growth hormone which can pack on the muscle you need to do this pushup crap.

Oh, and are you properly warming up before your workout and stretching afterword?

koltz
Aug 21, 2006, 06:01 AM
Are you allowing at least a day of rest in between workouts? Why do you need to go to a gym for this? If you did pullups in between your pushup bursts it would relax the opposing muscles, allowing for quicker recovery and better results, and the legs are the largest part of the body and when worked(they can handle a lot more punishment than you think), release more human growth hormone which can pack on the muscle you need to do this pushup crap.

Oh, and are you properly warming up before your workout and stretching afterword?
Screw rest days , I'm not even sore.
You are now gonan say that you block muscle grows etc adn you don't ahve to be sore , well the ady I want for some reason faster muscle grows then I already have I will rest and eat more like a body buildder , and you people gonan start blaming my "genetics" for faster growth haha

why do I need to go to a gym...? erm actually to meed soem friends who work out there and to work my legs

Yeah supersets are cool they got thier place but there not a must...

Yeah legs are the largest part in the body , but in my case there nowheren near chicken legs I work em out twice a week in my gym with squats and stuff...

pushup crap? erm... sure if you prefer to be like that moron I saw yesterday almost killing himself by benching with no spotter , I'd rather do some alternating oen arm pushups and planches at home with 10234234 sets without beig dependent on crappy spotters....



gosh at least you heven't dissed me for not cycling test+dianbol o_O
well BB gurus are still not the worst of em :]


p.s - I had a sore chest form yesterday this morning It's funny that it stopepd being sore after I ate breakfast hahah

Baofuhaibo
Aug 21, 2006, 03:44 PM
Your muscles require 48 hours of rest to recover in between workouts. This is solid science guy, I know you think you recover fast from genetics or some crap, but you don't. You can't ignore excercise science. You need some rest. You grow while your resting, not during the workout.

koltz
Aug 21, 2006, 04:28 PM
They, comapre results between test and controll groups in science don't they?

Well when I'm talking from 1++ year training and 2 year swimming expiriance I am the test and controll group baby!

This is not schience this is bulshit from bodybuilding gurus

<--- Ps this is an old pic with a bad view , quite jacked for a guy who eats maintenance and doesn't let his muscles grow isn't it? I'm not even trying to be jacked as a main goal!

Baofuhaibo
Aug 22, 2006, 04:55 PM
I'm not a bodybuilding guru, I'm a personal trainer. Your lack of bodyfat comes from your cardio, and good diet. Abs are built in the kitchen. I have a lack of bodyfat too(http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=29983020 if you use myspace), and I let my muscles recover.

Let your muscles recover, and you'll see faster results.

koltz
Aug 23, 2006, 03:19 AM
ohh a persnal trainer.... so you like make your clients do curls on busu balls and bench on thoose big blue balls for 12122 reps?

technically nearly everyone can qulyfy to be a PT so it means nothing.
also 15 and a half inch arms are pretty good , as far as I haven't been on bulking \ cutting thinkin about hypotrophy for a while now........ and I still get width especially on my legs while dropping BF rapidly ,
When I need more mass Ill go on a hypotrophy program of some sorts , till them I am staying on high frequency , low duration , modrate high intensity workouts(dropsetting in the gym ALL the time and heavy loads with 301 tempo and holds at home)]

edit : this thread needs to die , I have a different log now the pushup day was long ago when I tried forcing training being sore , I have been sore for the next day after it too but the enxt time I benched I added a few lbs w\ higher RM

Baofuhaibo
Aug 23, 2006, 04:49 PM
I don't work in a facility that has that many different training methods, this is not about hypertrophy, this is about what the human body can handle. The human body needs 48 hours for any muscle to recover, whether that be abs, chest, or whatever. The thread ends here.

koltz
Aug 24, 2006, 07:43 AM
Read what I said over the basics are powerfull thread ,
err don't take the PT joke personally and let this one die I have a different log now.

the 48 hour recovery when you diddn't even feel you trained is a worse myth then spot reduction.

seraphyne1
Aug 24, 2006, 10:38 AM
Good I read this post as I made a mistake in my own log and had to edit it. I sended you a pm (check the top of the page, where you read about messages next to log out or login).

koltz
Aug 24, 2006, 12:34 PM
Hmm It gives me an error page when sending the pm so I'm gonna say , no problem mate I'm also sorry for causing flame wars ni your log ...

seraphyne1
Aug 24, 2006, 12:41 PM
your pm came through. Let us just continue we do best. torturing ourselves with strange exercises. :lol:

Bullshido_Owns
Sep 01, 2006, 01:00 AM
I'm not a bodybuilding guru, I'm a personal trainer. Your lack of bodyfat comes from your cardio, and good diet. Abs are built in the kitchen. I have a lack of bodyfat too(http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=29983020 if you use myspace), and I let my muscles recover.

Let your muscles recover, and you'll see faster results.

Bao, you are not a personal trainer. Being a personal trainer requires proper certification and schooling, which you have none. Better come clean and be honest with them, or certain threads where your Good Enough Degree is exposed along with everything else will come to light.

Thank you.

Baofuhaibo
Sep 01, 2006, 02:44 AM
I'm the official personal trainer of my small Judo club, responsible for the health, fitness and well being of about 15 or so out of the 20 or so students that go there. While they may be practically experiments, I've read a full Anatomy and Physiology textbook, as well as several texts ranging from all sides of training, from cosmetic to strongman(the two extremes, I think), and I continue to study the human body and training principles on a daily basis.

Go back to Bullshido.

koltz
Sep 01, 2006, 06:56 AM
....Stop.... Bumping.... pleaaaase!!??

Bullshido_Owns
Sep 03, 2006, 01:05 AM
I'm the official personal trainer of my small Judo club, responsible for the health, fitness and well being of about 15 or so out of the 20 or so students that go there. While they may be practically experiments, I've read a full Anatomy and Physiology textbook, as well as several texts ranging from all sides of training, from cosmetic to strongman(the two extremes, I think), and I continue to study the human body and training principles on a daily basis.

Go back to Bullshido.

I'm sure they are quite aware then of the intense liability they have placed upon themselves by letting someone with no formal training, certifications, or extensive experience in personal training be in charge of them all. Reading a few physiology textbooks and quoting elements out of them and other resources does not make you a personal trainer. It is a slap in the face of all certified personal trainers who have gone through all the schooling and testing required to be qualified enough to train others. If I needed surgery, I would not want a high school dropout who has "extensively read and studied" physiology books and paramedic techniques and claims to be just as well-qualified as a doctor to open me up. Stop lying to others about your educational background, please.

Baofuhaibo
Sep 03, 2006, 02:04 AM
I didn't say I was certified. I went to the Belleville throwdown, and Don Gwinn knows I train Joe. I've proved that. Noone cares about the liability of some bullshit point your trying to prove. There is none. Joe's being trained by me. Dave York doesn't care, and neither does anyone on this forum. So go home and quit bumping this guy's thread unless you would like to contribute to this great forum.

Bullshido_Owns
Sep 03, 2006, 02:08 AM
I didn't say I was certified. I went to the Belleville throwdown, and Don Gwinn knows I train Joe. I've proved that. Noone cares about the liability of some bullshit point your trying to prove. There is none. Joe's being trained by me. Dave York doesn't care, and neither does anyone on this forum. So go home and quit bumping this guy's thread unless you would like to contribute to this great forum.

If they are fine with you promoting yourself as a personal trainer (which you are not), then all well and good. False representation of yourself reflects poorly upon you, just so you know. On the other forums you post at you do not call yourself a personal trainer. Why is this one any different?

Baofuhaibo
Sep 03, 2006, 02:14 AM
Why does it matter? I call myself a personal trainer a lot. Because I do, therefor I am. If I have people who I watch over during exercise, actively instructing them, then I am a personal trainer. Many people are personal trainers and have no degrees. I am one of them. So some guy's gone through the college in order to become one? I'm going to, so what? I'm going to become certified, and I'm making no untrue claims, so what's your problem?

Bullshido_Owns
Sep 03, 2006, 02:18 AM
Calling yourself a brain surgeon does not make you a brain surgeon. Planning to "someday" go to school to become a chemist does not make you a chemist. Reading a lot about art does not make you an artist.

koltz
Sep 03, 2006, 08:12 AM
Can a mod lock this please? This is on top of my real log...

Baofuhaibo
Sep 03, 2006, 12:16 PM
I'll stop responding to him, Koltz. I think he's made his rant.