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MachineHead
Jul 21, 2006, 06:05 PM
Howdy... I'm new here and saw the ab wheel discussion below... here's a link to a study that shows the ab wheel to be a decent abdominal builder upper. Good for the back, chest and sholders also...

http://www.ptjournal.org/PTJournal/May2006/v86n5p656.cfm

Personally, I'm good for a lot of reps at the knees, but have a lot of problems in the standing position. I'm still working at it... I had a wheel at one point (got it at Academy for, like, 6 dollars) but it broke, so I use my kids skateboard.

- jb

Jul 21, 2006, 09:34 PM
Hey Machine- I did not even know that they do research on this stuff. Nice to know that our little methods are not forgotten.
If you want to be able to do a roll out on your feet there is a simple progression.
Just stand a few feet from the wall. Bend over and put the wheel or scateboard on the floor and roll out a few feet than hit a wall and come back. When you get stronger just move a little back from the wall. Do that for a while and should be a able to do a full roll out.

manofleisure
Jul 31, 2006, 12:28 AM
A while back I saw this contraption called the ab dolly.

If you could strap your feet in like the ab wheel then you would have 360 movement and I was wondering if folks here think it would be of great improvement over the ab wheel or power wheel so to speak?

Hopefully if it is we can get some folks on a good home made experiment for this feature.

http://www.fischer-sports.com/ABdolly.html

Jul 31, 2006, 10:04 AM
It's great that it moves in many plains. For someone who wants to do all abs- all the time and nothing but abs it's great.
I think that many people here use ab wheel as one or two sets thing, so multi plane may not be that much of interest.

MachineHead
Jul 31, 2006, 11:21 AM
You may have seen this -- Here are some more plains of motion ideas...

http://www.rosstraining.com/videos/thehomegym.wmv

koltz
Aug 02, 2006, 06:34 AM
You can also work your chest with an ab roller by doing rollups... and rear delts maybe even tri's the resistance you get is crazy low at th top and VERY HIGH at the bottom , might make it a bad choice of excersise or help progress into it

manofleisure
Aug 17, 2006, 12:47 AM
Is it just a reverse of the ab wheel movement?

Aug 17, 2006, 11:46 AM
You can also work your chest with an ab roller by doing rollups... and rear delts maybe even tri's the resistance you get is crazy low at th top and VERY HIGH at the bottom , might make it a bad choice of excersise or help progress into it

You do work the lower chest, when you do that stuff.
close grip, close elbow pull ups work the lower chest as well.

koltz
Aug 17, 2006, 02:57 PM
theres no "lower chest" theres the sternal ( middle and lower ) and cavacular (wrong spelling hell with it ) which is the upper chest...

rollups on low gymnastics rings , or some sort of wheel you hold is about the same as a flyes excersise with huge dumbells , excet the part that full extension o the arms to the side has twice more resistance then 90* between your arms...
also builds crazy biceps and all that like a planche

mac_dre
Jun 12, 2008, 02:24 AM
what do you guys think is better the traditonal ab wheel,
http://www.pycfitness.com/admin/uploadpic/2007319438024327.jpg

or this one
http://www.rosstraining.com/images/wheel4.jpg

TheMasterKey
Jun 12, 2008, 10:52 AM
I bought an ab wheel yesterday, I'm liking it alot, also just order some rings, it's time to go the next level... :lol:

Liquidmantis
Jun 12, 2008, 11:23 AM
what do you guys think is better the traditonal ab wheel,
http://www.pycfitness.com/admin/uploadpic/2007319438024327.jpg

or this one
http://www.rosstraining.com/images/wheel4.jpg

The one on RossTraining.com is for one hand or split hand work so a two wheeled handle is required. For two handed work the center wheel would be better because you're destabilized.

mac_dre
Jun 12, 2008, 05:42 PM
The one on RossTraining.com is for one hand or split hand work so a two wheeled handle is required. For two handed work the center wheel would be better because you're destabilized.
so the center wheel is better for ab work.

Dave.cyco
Jun 12, 2008, 08:57 PM
I've used both, and I can't tell the difference. I can get the same number of reps either way (from my knees, haven't progressed to standing yet). But I wouldn't say that one is better. Even if there is some destabilization with the two handed one, there would be even more destabilization using two, and letting go with one hand. Both are useful tools, but I would say that using the two one handed versions yields more variety.

mac_dre
Jun 12, 2008, 11:09 PM
so, if i wanted more bang for my buck, i should make some one handed ones?