Ab-Wheel

[speedy]

While I support leg lifts and many other mid-section workouts, my ultimate favorite is the ab-wheel.

While I support leg lifts and many other mid-section workouts, my ultimate favorite is the ab-wheel.
Why bro?

[speedy]

Not only does it work the mid-section, but does a nice job on getting you pumped on your chest and arms too.

I may be pretty mess up compared to you speedy.
My wrist can't handle the wheel. And my shoulders hurt when it goes too far out.
Not the muscle, but the joint.

I guess the wheel works the lower chest and triceps.
Don't you want to isolate the abdominals?
I really don't see the wheel transfering into a sport.
Just my oppinion.

[speedy]

Like anything else it is all about form. Why work one muscle when you can do more than one at a time. There are plent of ab workouts I can do that would work the abs more, but am I going for the 6-pack or strong abs? There is a difference here, for you will NEVER get a 6-pack just using the ab-wheel, but you WILL get strong abs. So decide what you want, and act accordingly.

[Appleman]

Maybe with the wheel you won't.
Overall you can get strong abs and six pack at the same time.
I don't think strong abs are very useful though.
Obliques are allot more usefull.
Some may argue that strong abs protect againts getting hit, I think it is about learning how to get hit.

[speedy]

LMAO....learning how to get hit....that's funny. There are two parts to taking a punch in the gut: strong abs and learning to tighten them up on impact. Learning how to get hit is not how I would put it. That's rich!

[TO]

I'm with Speedy. The Ab-wheel is the cheapest piece of exercise equipment I own, but it is one of the most useful. C'mon, it works the abs, back,lats, chest, arms. What's not to like? If you wanna build core strength, this is it. If you want a six pack, you don't have to be strong, just watch what you eat, do lots of cardio, and lower your body fat content.

I'm with Speedy. The Ab-wheel is the cheapest piece of exercise equipment I own, but it is one of the most useful. C'mon, it works the abs, back,lats, chest, arms. What's not to like? If you wanna build core strength, this is it. If you want a six pack, you don't have to be strong, just watch what you eat, do lots of cardio, and lower your body fat content.

You don't think that you need to work your abs hard to get a six pack?
Just cardio and nutrition?

[koltz]

No you don't ahve to be strong at all for a six pack that is true.

A lot of skinny in israel around like the 8th grade diet themselves to oblivion and do abt 2 sets of crunches a day and have a sixpack oviously the rest of thier bodies is a pile os sticks.

Now getting a beutifull midsection along with obliques strogn transerve abdominals and actually a real shape for the abs rather the soem blob under the skin it takes hard work, the mid section/lower back ar they key to "functional strength" among other muscles , for example one might bench over 300 pounds at a bw of 170 but he will not be able to do a single one armed pushup even after a lot of practice because he lacks core development..

Also notice the early bodybuilders who did things like bent presses a lot and other things without thosoe lifting belts or lying on a bench like people do nowdays , they were also much stronger for thier weight

[Appleman]

One arm pushups builds crazy core strength. No doubt.

[speedy]

Yeah, but you need to develop the strength as well as the stability to even do them properly.

[TO]

I'm with Speedy. The Ab-wheel is the cheapest piece of exercise equipment I own, but it is one of the most useful. C'mon, it works the abs, back,lats, chest, arms. What's not to like? If you wanna build core strength, this is it. If you want a six pack, you don't have to be strong, just watch what you eat, do lots of cardio, and lower your body fat content.

You don't think that you need to work your abs hard to get a six pack?
Just cardio and nutrition?
All you need to see muscle definition is to get the fat & water out of the way. Cardio and nutrition will do this. You could be monstrously strong, but with a layer of fat sitting on top of the muscle, who would know by looking?

I'm a skinny guy. I've had a six pack for over 20 years and never worked my abs hard. I never thought about strength because the abs were there, you could see them. This situation had to change because it was all show and no go. I got an ab wheel and now I've got some serious core strength to go with the six pack.

[speedy]

6-packs are good for only two things:

Bodybuilding competition
or/and
Getting the girls wet!

6-packs are good for only two things:

Bodybuilding competition
or/and
Getting the girls wet!

What is wrong with the second one? \:D/
Also I don't think girls respond that well to a six pack as one would hope. :roll:

[speedy]

That's true. In my younger years they got excited over my arms.

[koltz]

6-packs are good for only two things:

Bodybuilding competition
or/and
Getting the girls wet!

What is wrong with the second one? \:D/
Also I don't think girls respond that well to a six pack as one would hope. :roll:
Two good places for showing off a six pack would be hitting the beach and thosoe rating sites ,
in the first you get hit on very oviously by a lot of girls especially if you are in a very little group
on the secund you would get 20X more replies in a shorter time then any other guy
from personal expiriance

Are our women that superficial now?
What happens to a stable job? Family minded? Romantic? Sense of humor?
If only people back than knew about the six pack. Although the Greeks may have known.

[koltz]

I guess thoose are the qualities a 30 year old would want to be merried to,

If you just want to meet new girls you don't yell I AM A CEOOO OF A BIG COMAPNNY HOW ARE YOUUUUU???? don't you?

Hehe
I would not yet that cause they would not believe it.
Although if they knew me by face, let's say Mr. Gates. I am sure they would not care too much about the six pack.

[TO]

Click on the the video to see an intense ab-wheel routine.
http://www.rossboxing.com/

Thanks,
still not sure of usefullness.

[TO]

Thanks,
still not sure of usefullness.
Usefullness of what, a strong core?

[speedy]

If you can't see the pluses of a strong core, why are you working out? I'm serious, it is not called the core for nothing. The center of everything is the key component. Try getting some kind of injury in that area (serious injury) and try to do workouts.

A quick Google search had a better description of what the core is all about.

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/conditioning/a/aa052002a.htm

[Sypherssj209]

Ab-Wheels are the shit! I have a basic one and believe me, the first time I used it my abs were killing me, could barely move my core much, and my core was pretty strong beforehand.

Pavel Tsatsouline uses the ab wheel like a monster, starting from his feet, going out all the way, and back up on his feet again, thats crazy strength, I also want to get into Janda Situps, but I need to find the right equipment to do so, the official one is so expensive.

[Drunken Panda]

I can certainly see how the ab wheel can be used to create a strong and durable core.

I do not own an ab wheel, and have instead been using a skateboard to perform ab wheel rollouts; I simply clutch the middle edges of the board and roll forward as one would with an ab wheel.

While I am sure that a real ab wheel would require greater intensity and yield greater results, I can get a reasonably good workout from using the skateboard - I can really feel my abdominals having to work (I perform standing rollouts).

I suppose the question is: should I acquire a 'proper' ab wheel, or would using the skateboard as an improvised wheel suffice? I'm thinking that a real ab wheel would be better (less surface area contact = more intensity/stability required), but I do like improvising with stuff that I find rather than buying new equipment.

Any suggestions?

[koltz]

you train your abs too much , you don't even need a roller to train abs + obliques devently with this position , and you train them too much , you need to train your obliques and back some more

[Drunken Panda]

you train your abs too much , you don't even need a roller to train abs + obliques devently with this position , and you train them too much , you need to train your obliques and back some more

Sorry Koltz, but can I just clarify who this was intended for? Is it a general statement, or is it directed at my last post?

If it is a general comment, then I agree: many people do train their abs too much and too directly, without taking into account their obliques and deep core muscles.

However, if it was directed at me, then I would like to say that you, indeed no-one here, knows my training regime (yet - I'll set up a workout log one of these days!) and are therefore not qualified to comment on what I 'need' to do. For the record, I do plenty of all-round core work - supermans, side raises, twisting movements, body raises - as well as back work.

I don't mean to sound aggressive, I just wanted to clear that up! As I said, as a general comment, you are correct: a strong core needs more than just strong abs!

[koltz]

it's directed at everyone , people thing crunches are the magic bullet for thier core , past me included.
the abs don't really need a lot of attention , for exampel suppose you do the switch** , you prolyl don't need to train your abs and lower back


**Some excersise for the elgs , very powerfull , like the deadlift of BWC